Inovative Trail Conflict Solution

[c0nsumer]

You say "rider up" when passing people on a paved path?

When hiking / walking I really, really dislike it when someone on a bike whips past me just shouting "on your left" or whatnot. It feels like the cyclist is commanding me to watch out for them. I feel the best thing to do on trails is exactly what Doc_d describes; being polite and not demanding, saying hi, and arranging a friendly, easy passing.

On pavement if the route is sufficiently empty/wide I just pass safely without saying anything. Since I'm usually far enough away for it not to matter, everything's good. Often I find that smiling saying hi goes a long way, particularly when traveling in opposite directions. If it's crowded I defer to the trail stuff listed above, but if it's really that crowded on a paved path I'll try and find another route. Riding amongst crowds of people (read: PCT near Rochester on a springtime / autumn weekend morning) just isn't much fun.

[cramer]

You say "rider up" when passing people on a paved path?

When hiking / walking I really, really dislike it when someone on a bike whips past me just shouting "on your left" or whatnot. It feels like the cyclist is commanding me to watch out for them. I feel the best thing to do on trails is exactly what Doc_d describes; being polite and not demanding, saying hi, and arranging a friendly, easy passing.

On pavement if the route is sufficiently empty/wide I just pass safely without saying anything. Since I'm usually far enough away for it not to matter, everything's good. Often I find that smiling saying hi goes a long way, particularly when traveling in opposite directions. If it's crowded I defer to the trail stuff listed above, but if it's really that crowded on a paved path I'll try and find another route. Riding amongst crowds of people (read: PCT near Rochester on a springtime / autumn weekend morning) just isn't much fun.

That's how I dooze it too.

[dirt]

You say "rider up" when passing people on a paved path?

When hiking / walking I really, really dislike it when someone on a bike whips past me just shouting "on your left" or whatnot. It feels like the cyclist is commanding me to watch out for them. I feel the best thing to do on trails is exactly what Doc_d describes; being polite and not demanding, saying hi, and arranging a friendly, easy passing.

On pavement if the route is sufficiently empty/wide I just pass safely without saying anything. Since I'm usually far enough away for it not to matter, everything's good. Often I find that smiling saying hi goes a long way, particularly when traveling in opposite directions. If it's crowded I defer to the trail stuff listed above, but if it's really that crowded on a paved path I'll try and find another route. Riding amongst crowds of people (read: PCT near Rochester on a springtime / autumn weekend morning) just isn't much fun.

"on you left" is a statement, "move" is a demand.

[c0nsumer]

You say "rider up" when passing people on a paved path?

When hiking / walking I really, really dislike it when someone on a bike whips past me just shouting "on your left" or whatnot. It feels like the cyclist is commanding me to watch out for them. I feel the best thing to do on trails is exactly what Doc_d describes; being polite and not demanding, saying hi, and arranging a friendly, easy passing.

On pavement if the route is sufficiently empty/wide I just pass safely without saying anything. Since I'm usually far enough away for it not to matter, everything's good. Often I find that smiling saying hi goes a long way, particularly when traveling in opposite directions. If it's crowded I defer to the trail stuff listed above, but if it's really that crowded on a paved path I'll try and find another route. Riding amongst crowds of people (read: PCT near Rochester on a springtime / autumn weekend morning) just isn't much fun.

"on you left" is a statement, "move" is a demand.

I understand that's how it's intended, but I think that it is often not perceived as friendly as it's intended.

[dirt]

You say "rider up" when passing people on a paved path?

When hiking / walking I really, really dislike it when someone on a bike whips past me just shouting "on your left" or whatnot. It feels like the cyclist is commanding me to watch out for them. I feel the best thing to do on trails is exactly what Doc_d describes; being polite and not demanding, saying hi, and arranging a friendly, easy passing.

On pavement if the route is sufficiently empty/wide I just pass safely without saying anything. Since I'm usually far enough away for it not to matter, everything's good. Often I find that smiling saying hi goes a long way, particularly when traveling in opposite directions. If it's crowded I defer to the trail stuff listed above, but if it's really that crowded on a paved path I'll try and find another route. Riding amongst crowds of people (read: PCT near Rochester on a springtime / autumn weekend morning) just isn't much fun.

"on you left" is a statement, "move" is a demand.

I understand that's how it's intended, but I think that it is often not perceived as friendly as it's intended.

Well, of course it's followed up by a "thanks" as I pass, to prevent any possible confusion regarding misunderstandings of my intension.

[c0nsumer]

Well, of course it's followed up by a "thanks" as I pass, to prevent any possible confusion regarding misunderstandings of my intension.

Yeah, that's not a bad way to go... I wasn't meaning you when I said any of that; I've just had some interesting occurrences when walking on the River Walk (or whatever that small segment is called) in Rochester where someone comes up behind me and simply shouts ON YOUR LEFT trying to get me to move right. It felt very unfriendly even though I knew what they meant. I'd imagine that others might feel the same way.

[Mack]

What we say in middle is not nearly as important as what we say first and last. IMO the
first words out of our mouths should be "hi", "hello", "good morning/afternoon". The
last words should be "thank you", "thanks", "have a great day" etc.. What we say in the
middle is just personal preference. The first and last words a person speaks are what the
other person will remember. That is if we want to leave them with a good lasting
impression which I belive we all want . If not just tell them to move the over .

[Critter7r]

What we say in middle is not nearly as important as what we say first and last. IMO the
first words out of our mouths should be "hi", "hello", "good morning/afternoon". The
last words should be "thank you", "thanks", "have a great day" etc.. What we say in the
middle is just personal preference. The first and last words a person speaks are what the
other person will remember. That is if we want to leave them with a good lasting
impression which I belive we all want . If not just tell them to move the over .

All morning I was trying to think of how to word "I'm going to pass on your/my/the left/right" more appealing when spoken loudly or shouted from 20-30 feet back on the trail. Becasue no matter how you put the words, when spoken loudly enough to be sure you're heard, it scomes off sounding authoritative and demanding, not polite in the least. And then I read this.

BOOM

So true. "Good morning! I'm going to pass on the left. .... Thanks!"



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[Mack]

What we say in middle is not nearly as important as what we say first and last. IMO the
first words out of our mouths should be "hi", "hello", "good morning/afternoon". The
last words should be "thank you", "thanks", "have a great day" etc.. What we say in the
middle is just personal preference. The first and last words a person speaks are what the
other person will remember. That is if we want to leave them with a good lasting
impression which I belive we all want . If not just tell them to move the over .

All morning I was trying to think of how to word "I'm going to pass on your/my/the left/right" more appealing when spoken loudly or shouted from 20-30 feet back on the trail. Becasue no matter how you put the words, when spoken loudly enough to be sure you're heard, it scomes off sounding authoritative and demanding, not polite in the least. And then I read this.

BOOM

So true. "Good morning! I'm going to pass on the left. .... Thanks!"



/thread

Works everytime without fail.

[b_b]

Well not everytime... if the person is obliviously listening to their ipod. Yeah that's a pet peeve of mine.

[Mack]

Well not everytime... if the person is obliviously listening to their ipod. Yeah that's a pet peeve of mine.

In that case refer to last sentence in previous post.