Fox service vs. Push service?

[johnhugo71]

I need my fork and shock serviced. Is Push worth the extra $$$ or should I just send it to Fox and save the extra dough? They both work fine just time for new seals & oil in the fork and it's been probably 3 yrs since the shocks been serviced. Fork is an F100X and the shock is an RP23

[RMXByker]

Either or, just a personal preference. I can't believe what people are paying to have their equipment "Pushed." If you've ever torn one of the forks and shocks down and have knowledge of suspension valving, you'll realize their is VERY LITTLE that can be modified or changed in the standard forks and shocks that we obtain.

[dirt]

Either or, just a personal preference. I can't believe what people are paying to have their equipment "Pushed." If you've ever torn one of the forks and shocks down and have knowledge of suspension valving, you'll realize their is VERY LITTLE that can be modified or changed in the standard forks and shocks that we obtain.

..and if you've ever ridden a shock or fork after it's been pushed, you realize that there is obviously a lot of tuning that can be done, because it feels totally different.

My Reba was a totally different fork after I got it back from Push.

[iamkickstand]

Either or, just a personal preference. I can't believe what people are paying to have their equipment "Pushed." If you've ever torn one of the forks and shocks down and have knowledge of suspension valving, you'll realize their is VERY LITTLE that can be modified or changed in the standard forks and shocks that we obtain.

..and if you've ever ridden a shock or fork after it's been pushed, you realize that there is obviously a lot of tuning that can be done, because it feels totally different.

My Reba was a totally different fork after I got it back from Push.

I have not ridden a push'd or avy, or other aftermarket fork, but I have done enough reading and research from people who have on other forums to know that there are a lot of things that can be modified that can make a significant difference int he feel of the product.

How many people are that in tune with their fork or shocks that they can actually feel the difference? That I don't know, but across the world wide interwebz a lot of people are saying they are noticing an incredible difference.

[Mack]

I can't say enough about my PUSH'ed Fox Fork & Shox. Like night and day. Worth every penny.


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[johnhugo71]

Hey Paul!
What are the night and day differences? Better how?

[RMXByker]

Funny how everyone thinks that what PUSH is doing is some crazy thing. Their is a very limited amount of shims in a standard fork. A lot of the differences that are felt by people on these systems is simply a fluid weight change with a minimal change to valving. If you want to see a real suspension job, pull apart a moto fork. To each their own, I will continue to save my money.

[Jerry68]

Funny how everyone thinks that what PUSH is doing is some crazy thing. Their is a very limited amount of shims in a standard fork. A lot of the differences that are felt by people on these systems is simply a fluid weight change with a minimal change to valving. If you want to see a real suspension job, pull apart a moto fork. To each their own, I will continue to save my money.

This is one of the most accurate things I have ever read on the internet.

[Mack]

Hey Paul!
What are the night and day differences? Better how?

Fork: It had a mid travel spike / harhness that is gone, pretty much every fork I
have rode has it. Not everybody feels It. If you have spent alot of time tuning
supensions MTB/offroad you will know what I am talking about. Also I went with
the HV Air Piston option. The Fork now has a much improved linear travel curve.
Rebound, compression & lockout are revalved and work on a more precise
level. Push does all this according to your weight, style and bike make.

Shock: It also had the famous mid travel spike that is gone. with the Push
High Flow Piston the travel is smooooth as buttar and more linear. Again
the rebound,compression & lockout are revalved and just work on a more
precise level and this is all done to your weight and riding style. I cannot
stress how important this one factor is. The fork and shock are tuned to you
not some 95th percentile that stock forks & shocks are tune to.

Their services are not inexpensive for sure, but PUSH'ed forks & shocks
work better then stock in every facet plain and simple. I do all my moto
forks and have had them revalved also. moving shim stacks around and revalving
are two different things. Oil weights are also part of the equation.

[dirtjunkie]

I need my fork and shock serviced. Is Push worth the extra $$$ or should I just send it to Fox and save the extra dough? They both work fine just time for new seals & oil in the fork and it's been probably 3 yrs since the shocks been serviced. Fork is an F100X and the shock is an RP23

Sent you a PM.

[dirt]

Funny how everyone thinks that what PUSH is doing is some crazy thing. Their is a very limited amount of shims in a standard fork. A lot of the differences that are felt by people on these systems is simply a fluid weight change with a minimal change to valving. If you want to see a real suspension job, pull apart a moto fork. To each their own, I will continue to save my money.

This is one of the most accurate things I have ever read on the internet.

You mean about not actually knowing a single thing about what PUSH actually does? Yeah, I agree.

What is the difference between a normal rebuild and PUSH? PUSH makes their own custom shims and pistons, allowing them many more options to tune the forks/shocks then anybody can with stock parts. It's not rockets science, they have the ability, because of the large number of options with parts, to much more custom tune the fork beyond what is possible with the stock parts available.

Then again, you can believe that the hundreds of satisfied customers are just drinking kool-aid, and have no idea what the are talking about.

[Mack]

Funny how everyone thinks that what PUSH is doing is some crazy thing. Their is a very limited amount of shims in a standard fork. A lot of the differences that are felt by people on these systems is simply a fluid weight change with a minimal change to valving. If you want to see a real suspension job, pull apart a moto fork. To each their own, I will continue to save my money.

This is one of the most accurate things I have ever read on the internet.

You mean about not actually knowing a single thing about what PUSH actually does? Yeah, I agree.

What is the difference between a normal rebuild and PUSH? PUSH makes their own custom shims and pistons, allowing them many more options to tune the forks/shocks then anybody can with stock parts. It's not rockets science, they have the ability, because of the large number of options with parts, to much more custom tune the fork beyond what is possible with the stock parts available.

Then again, you can believe that the hundreds of satisfied customers are just drinking kool-aid, and have no idea what the are talking about.

+1 The key word here is custom tuned.

[iamkickstand]

I was under the impression that it is not just a custom tune/rebuild on your fork/shock, but the damper/cartridge are often replaced/reassembled with custom parts.

[bh357]

I asked Push if they do Niner forks... they just laughed at me

[Mack]

I was under the impression that it is not just a custom tune/rebuild on your fork/shock, but the damper/cartridge are often replaced/reassembled with custom parts.

That is true. It's done more for time savings. Instead of completely disassembling your damper/cartridge
and then reassembling it with their custom parts. They install a new damper/cartridge from that fork/shock
maker with their custom parts on it then tune that damper/cartridge to your weight, style and bike make.