Park&Rec "Passport".... a small letter "P"

[chrismaltby]

How do you get a sticker if your plate is not due till July?

Go to the SOS. Tell them what you want. Give them $10 and they will print you a new registration and a sticker with a diminutive P affixed to it.

Chris

you don't NEED to... if you don't need a plate through Sept2011 you basically have FREE access to the parks- another built in money-loss application of the current law it seems

Q: What if I want to use the parks in 2011 before my registration renewal date - will I have to pay twice?
A. The Recreation Passport funding model is not tied to the calendar year - instead, it will be based on your personal vehicle registration date.

Here is an example of how it will work the first year of the program:

Your vehicle registration renewal is in July

Or you could support the parks and throw them 10 bucks because it is the right thing to do, but Dennis is correct. We are lucky to have those parks -- except perhaps Ft. Custer and then I'd say pirate it and *beep* on equine truck hoods. . . .. .
You want to visit the park in April
If you want to use the parks before your vehicle registration is due (for example, in April), then please do! Our staff will see that your chance to pay the $10 will not occur until July, and you will not be asked to purchase anything on-site. However, if you don't buy your Recreation Passport in July and you visit a park in September, you will have to buy a one at a state park or recreation area.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

[Sortaslow]

Cool, well as far a being easy, not cool for revenu lost.

Was wondering this too, and have been too lazy to look it up.

[ibisman]

Thanks Guys!

[daffunda]

As for that personalized "PRESERVE OUR TRAILS" plate, it is a cool idea, however, there is one problem.

If you do one, then every special interest group is going to want one. Equestrians, Mtn bikers, hikers, GPS Geocaching, blah blah blah...

[c0nsumer]

As for that personalized "PRESERVE OUR TRAILS" plate, it is a cool idea, however, there is one problem.

If you do one, then every special interest group is going to want one. Equestrians, Mtn bikers, hikers, GPS Geocaching, blah blah blah...

Er, all those groups use trails... A parks/trails plate doesn't have to be bike-specific.

And second, so what? Personalized plates are not done at a loss, and there's already a whole bunch of them.

[wingzz]

I have a question, I had already renewed my plates, what do I need to do to get an annual state park pass now?

[Di_bear]

I have a question, I had already renewed my plates, what do I need to do to get an annual state park pass now?

Well, I don't know your birthday, so I'll use my dad's birthday for an example. Dad's birthday is in July, so he doesn't have a P sticker on his plate. He doesn't need one until July, either. He can enter the state parks without the P sticker because they'll know from his registration sticker that his birthday is yet to come. After July, though, if he still doesn't have that P sticker they'll ticket him.

Just get the sticker with your registration (assuming your birthday is before October). If you renewed your registration after October, then you can get your sticker at the state park office.

In the end, it all works out.

[dennismurphy]

As for that personalized "PRESERVE OUR TRAILS" plate, it is a cool idea, however, there is one problem.

If you do one, then every special interest group is going to want one. Equestrians, Mtn bikers, hikers, GPS Geocaching, blah blah blah...

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/non-p ... 9866_7.pdf


maybe we can get an MMBA plate?

[jalopy jockey]

How do you get a sticker if your plate is not due till July?

Go to the SOS. Tell them what you want. Give them $10 and they will print you a new registration and a sticker with a diminutive P affixed to it.

Chris

you don't NEED to... if you don't need a plate through Sept2011 you basically have FREE access to the parks- another built in money-loss application of the current law it seems

Q: What if I want to use the parks in 2011 before my registration renewal date - will I have to pay twice?
A. The Recreation Passport funding model is not tied to the calendar year - instead, it will be based on your personal vehicle registration date.

Here is an example of how it will work the first year of the program:

Your vehicle registration renewal is in July
You want to visit the park in April
If you want to use the parks before your vehicle registration is due (for example, in April), then please do! Our staff will see that your chance to pay the $10 will not occur until July, and you will not be asked to purchase anything on-site. However, if you don't buy your Recreation Passport in July and you visit a park in September, you will have to buy a one at a state park or recreation area.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

That's so as to now screw people like me who will get new tags in the spring. Granted paying for this year twice would still be cheaper than last year...

[dennismurphy]

How do you get a sticker if your plate is not due till July?

Go to the SOS. Tell them what you want. Give them $10 and they will print you a new registration and a sticker with a diminutive P affixed to it.

Chris

you don't NEED to... if you don't need a plate through Sept2011 you basically have FREE access to the parks- another built in money-loss application of the current law it seems

Q: What if I want to use the parks in 2011 before my registration renewal date - will I have to pay twice?
A. The Recreation Passport funding model is not tied to the calendar year - instead, it will be based on your personal vehicle registration date.

Here is an example of how it will work the first year of the program:

Your vehicle registration renewal is in July
You want to visit the park in April
If you want to use the parks before your vehicle registration is due (for example, in April), then please do! Our staff will see that your chance to pay the $10 will not occur until July, and you will not be asked to purchase anything on-site. However, if you don't buy your Recreation Passport in July and you visit a park in September, you will have to buy a one at a state park or recreation area.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

That's so as to now screw people like me who will get new tags in the spring. Granted paying for this year twice would still be cheaper than last year...

how are you 'screwed'? You can use the parks now with a NON-P plate and when you renew your plate you get the one with a P regardless of whether your plate renewal is May or August- Until then you just go in the park- if you already got a sticker with a P in advance of your spring plate renewal... well, consider it a donation to the DNR and as you say- still cheaper than the $25 fee previously

[chrismaltby]

http://www.nordicskiracer.com/news.asp?NewsID=5381

P-news.

[jalopy jockey]

How do you get a sticker if your plate is not due till July?

Go to the SOS. Tell them what you want. Give them $10 and they will print you a new registration and a sticker with a diminutive P affixed to it.

Chris

you don't NEED to... if you don't need a plate through Sept2011 you basically have FREE access to the parks- another built in money-loss application of the current law it seems

Q: What if I want to use the parks in 2011 before my registration renewal date - will I have to pay twice?
A. The Recreation Passport funding model is not tied to the calendar year - instead, it will be based on your personal vehicle registration date.

Here is an example of how it will work the first year of the program:

Your vehicle registration renewal is in July
You want to visit the park in April
If you want to use the parks before your vehicle registration is due (for example, in April), then please do! Our staff will see that your chance to pay the $10 will not occur until July, and you will not be asked to purchase anything on-site. However, if you don't buy your Recreation Passport in July and you visit a park in September, you will have to buy a one at a state park or recreation area.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

That's so as to now screw people like me who will get new tags in the spring. Granted paying for this year twice would still be cheaper than last year...

how are you 'screwed'? You can use the parks now with a NON-P plate and when you renew your plate you get the one with a P regardless of whether your plate renewal is May or August- Until then you just go in the park- if you already got a sticker with a P in advance of your spring plate renewal... well, consider it a donation to the DNR and as you say- still cheaper than the $25 fee previously

can't type w should have been a t. If there wasn't the grace period I would most certainly been hosed when I 1st go to state park a few weeks before I renew my plates.

[blacksword]

How do you get a sticker if your plate is not due till July?

Go to the SOS. Tell them what you want. Give them $10 and they will print you a new registration and a sticker with a diminutive P affixed to it.

Chris

you don't NEED to... if you don't need a plate through Sept2011 you basically have FREE access to the parks- another built in money-loss application of the current law it seems

Q: What if I want to use the parks in 2011 before my registration renewal date - will I have to pay twice?
A. The Recreation Passport funding model is not tied to the calendar year - instead, it will be based on your personal vehicle registration date.

Here is an example of how it will work the first year of the program:

Your vehicle registration renewal is in July
You want to visit the park in April
If you want to use the parks before your vehicle registration is due (for example, in April), then please do! Our staff will see that your chance to pay the $10 will not occur until July, and you will not be asked to purchase anything on-site. However, if you don't buy your Recreation Passport in July and you visit a park in September, you will have to buy a one at a state park or recreation area.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

That's so as to now screw people like me who will get new tags in the spring. Granted paying for this year twice would still be cheaper than last year...

how are you 'screwed'? You can use the parks now with a NON-P plate and when you renew your plate you get the one with a P regardless of whether your plate renewal is May or August- Until then you just go in the park- if you already got a sticker with a P in advance of your spring plate renewal... well, consider it a donation to the DNR and as you say- still cheaper than the $25 fee previously

can't type w should have been a t. If there wasn't the grace period I would most certainly been hosed when I 1st go to state park a few weeks before I renew my plates.

I don't get this "hosing" feeling. I have never seen a person in a booth at ANY state park Ive been to before mid May anyway. I have pretty much never bothered to buy my pass before that point either. I haven't even heard of anyone getting a ticket for using a park before they start manning the booths. And even if you were ticketed, its has been what, $7? It was always just the cost of a day pass.
The point of this legislation wasn't to force everyone to pay, but allow access everyone, or so I thought at least.
I expect far less enforcement, I highly doubt officer's will be riding around ticketing people- that would cost them $$$. Besides, what is the horrible horrible reason we can't allow some to access our parks without paying??? God forbid.

Oh and BTW, there are some stats out on participation. It's currently at 20%- with the parks saying anything over 17% is EXCESS from what they were collecting previously. Considering we haven't hit summer- I suspect that number will go up.

http://www.ourmichiganparks.org/
"About 20% of Michigan drivers who renewed their license plates Oct. 1-Dec. 31 have paid the extra $10 to get the Recreation Passport, new data from the Michigan Dept. of Natural Resources and Environment shows.

While 20% may not seem like a high percent participation, it is a good start, said Ron Olson, chief of the DNRE Recreation Division.

Olson said they needed to get at least 17% participation to match funding from the old state park pass program, and so far, they’re pleased."

Here is the link directly to the Freep article: http://www.freep.com/article/20110127/F ... y=nav|head

Relax, the sky isn't falling- yet at least.

Oh and here is the state's website for the recreation passport. http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

Oh and here are some business that are helping to push the program by offering discounts to those registered. I'm surprised I haven't heard more from Custer Cyclery and Trails Edge here- as they are on the list.
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

Some of these discount's could save you the $10 in one quick shot.... Pretty cool!

As one of the main organizations who helped push this bill, perhaps we should be making a larger effort to ensure our membership remembers to enroll as well??

[G.Cook]

I expect far less enforcement, I highly doubt officer's will be riding around ticketing people-

There will be a $100 fine after the grace period .

[blacksword]

I expect far less enforcement, I highly doubt officer's will be riding around ticketing people-

There will be a $100 fine after the grace period .

Hadn't seen that, thx.
What I am finding online says $20-$100. Esssentially the $20 would be for a park purchased sticker, but nothing explains exactly what would qualify as the $100 fine..

http://www.ingham.org/pk/TEMP/Recreation%20Passport.pdf

Says the legislation allows the DNRE to charge UP TO a $100 fine, and that they don't plan to now. That's really wonky- so essentially, be really nice to any Officer's- from the sound of it, even after the "transition period" no exact amount has been set.