ATV ID Plates

[G.Cook]

Sounds like a good idea.
http://www.adventure-journal.com/2011/0 ... l-atv-use/

[Bento]

This would be a good idea to eventually stop the likes of the Max Rd Poto clown and the a$$ who lives on Baldwin Circle (along railroad) at Island Lake Rec Area.

[Critter7r]

Sounds like a horrible idea.

A standard license plate isn't going to be much more easily legible covered in mud than a sticker on the fender. And you can bet they'd get a motorcycle-sized plate approved, and those are only the size of 2 or 3 credit cards (which is larger than the current stickers, but still not enough to be visible more than 20 feet away, and significantly less than that if it's covered in mud).

And is it going to also be a good idea when the State tell us we have to now register our "vehicles" and put a license plate on our mountainbikes to "encourage responsible riders to obey the rules"?

Tip: You don't have to encourage responsible riders to obey the rules, they already do. It's the irresponsible riders that need to be "encouraged", and they don't care. However, I would rather deal with an occasional asshat rouge ATV'er than have the Nanny State force me to succumb to yet another fee.

[Di_bear]

And is it going to also be a good idea when the State tell us we have to now register our "vehicles" and put a license plate on our mountainbikes to "encourage responsible riders to obey the rules"?

Unfortunately, there are some montain bikers who think this is a good idea because they think the licensing would give us more clout in Lansing. I completely disagree with it. Some things need to be simple play, especially bikes.

[Critter7r]

And after that we'll have to register our Frisbees as airborne vehicles.

[G.Cook]

Illegal motorized traffic on non-motorized trails sounds like a good enough for reason for me.
You wanna get silly with the scenario's be my guest. Getting run down by some jack hole on an ATV while you were out playing on your bike or tossing around your toy Frisbee warrants restrictive action by the state. Of course you could shoot the ATV moron and take your chances with the court system. You know, that "nanny state" thing again.

[barrybs]

I remember years ago there was some talk of molding an ID number into the rubber tracks of snowmobiles that would be registered with the government. By reading the imprint in the snow the authorities could "track" you down.

[johnboy]

this reminds me of back in the day when we would street race down in Detroit on motorcycles. we knew we wer doing wrong, and also found it fun to outrun the cops.. so we just never put our plates on the bikes..

they will just do the same thing.. and the only people that suffer are the ones who follow the rules. the best thing to do is go up to em and say hay a$$ clown! one of these days your gonna run one of us over. and next time I see ya I'm gonna take your keys and break em in two... sorry.. that's just kinda how I handle things.. there's too many laws out there that hurt the wrong ppl.

[Critter7r]

Illegal motorized traffic on non-motorized trails sounds like a good enough for reason for me.
You wanna get silly with the scenario's be my guest. Getting run down by some jack hole on an ATV while you were out playing on your bike or tossing around your toy Frisbee warrants restrictive action by the state. Of course you could shoot the ATV moron and take your chances with the court system. You know, that "nanny state" thing again.

I don't remember mentioning anything about shooting anyone. I think my post was more along the lines of ignoring them. And while getting run down by some jack hole on an ATV would suck, I doubt that creating a law that requires everyone to have a license plate on their ATV would effect any remedy for that situation. One has very little to do with the other.

[Roy]

Just another jack a s s wanting more government control. Thankfully, he was just not up on technology or he would insisted that every ATV and Bike have a GPS radio chip installed. That way the, your ticket would be issued by Google and deducted automatically from your Visa account. The best part is that it will be your constitutional right to have your Visa account bailed out. Even better, with enough bailout points you get free stuff from a GAO Green Stamp catalog.
I could go on with this fantasy, but it is more like a nightmare we are bequeathing to our Grandchildren.
The problem well meaning ideas like this: Politicians will use it to gain more power and then more power. They never give back power! Power to the people always results in more power for the government.
Ok, enough of this rant!

Roy

[dirt]

Just another jack a s s wanting more government control. Thankfully, he was just not up on technology or he would insisted that every ATV and Bike have a GPS radio chip installed. That way the, your ticket would be issued by Google and deducted automatically from your Visa account. The best part is that it will be your constitutional right to have your Visa account bailed out. Even better, with enough bailout points you get free stuff from a GAO Green Stamp catalog.
I could go on with this fantasy, but it is more like a nightmare we are bequeathing to our Grandchildren.
The problem well meaning ideas like this: Politicians will use it to gain more power and then more power. They never give back power! Power to the people always results in more power for the government.
Ok, enough of this rant!

Roy

That's where I finally agreed with you.

Seriously, where do you come up with this *beep*?

[Bento]

I decided to stick it to the State. Fours days without a plate on my car and I haven't been pulled over, yet. I plan on referencing the Big Brother points made above in the remote chance the man pulls me over.

[dauber76]

I decided to stick it to the State. Fours days without a plate on my car and I haven't been pulled over, yet. I plan on referencing the Big Brother points made above in the remote chance the man pulls me over.

Driving a car is a privilege, not a right. If you want to drive you must pay by the rules or risk the consequences. Drive without registration, get caught, and give the cop some Big Brother rant? Expect to be finding a new way home after the cop tows your car.

[Critter7r]

Unfortunately, there are some montain bikers who think this is a good idea because they think the licensing would give us more clout in Lansing. I completely disagree with it. Some things need to be simple play, especially bikes.

But since we already pay a fee for simply being able to drive a vehicle into the park, this would be a double-dip fee to license each bicycle for use on public land for anyone that doesn't exclusively use their bike as a means to travel to the trail that they ride. I assume, (I know, I know) that most people aren't as lucky as myself to live within riding distance of TWO State Parks with MTB trails and they drive to the trail head, so i can't see that type of registration fee getting off the ground. Or at least, I'd vote against it, given the chance.

[JRP]

No amount of regulation is going to change the fact that people will always do stupid things. The government cant save you from everything, and it shouldnt be expected to. Life isnt always fair. Tough *beep*.