Cycle to Fitness-Detroits ONLY Quiring dealer!

[c0nsumer]

I'm having trouble with that arguement. I thought demand went up when supply went down? Not that this has anything to do with the Quiring debate at hand. The same amount of bikes are available. Only now, if you want to buy one from a bike shop, it has to be ctof.

Demand may, but that doesn't mean that prices will always follow. And, if the point is to sell products and make a profit, you don't always want to sell fewer products for a higher price. I'm digressing, though, so back to the topic at hand... This exclusivity means that folks who wish to shop elsewhere (due to preference, team obligation, or whatever) will have a much greater difficulty getting a Quiring frame now. In some cases they won't be able to get one at all, which is a shame because they are such a nice product.

[bigzz]

Awesome!

Not sure why you have to get flamed by people in a public forum
This is disrespectful.

That is the nature of a public forum. Always has been, always will be. We're not a bunch of smiley glad-hands here, we're realists. Some of us, at least.

FYI, no actual flaming has occured in this thread. At all. Just people chiming in with reasonable and honest comments.

You are correct. It is the nature of public forums for cowards to make comments behind a keyboard. Not saying this is the case here.

This is the Bike Shop news thread and a bike shop posted news. Now other people reply with other bike shop signatures and reply negatively towards another bike shop which is disrespectful. So i guess we should all reply with what has been deemed to be reasonable and honest comments. And watch this board get really ugly.


Or if people have personal issues with others it should handled it offline.

[dirt]

Doesn't look like it for 2010 by this post.

Since anybody can order right off the website, anybody can sell Quiring bikes.

If that is your logic, anybody could sell ANY bikes.

No. Some bike manufactures don't sell off their website, and only through authorized dealers. Scotty Quiring sells frames directly off his website. You don't have to go through a dealer.

[dirt]

Awesome!

Not sure why you have to get flamed by people in a public forum
This is disrespectful.

That is the nature of a public forum. Always has been, always will be. We're not a bunch of smiley glad-hands here, we're realists. Some of us, at least.

FYI, no actual flaming has occured in this thread. At all. Just people chiming in with reasonable and honest comments.

You are correct. It is the nature of public forums for cowards to make comments behind a keyboard. Not saying this is the case here.

This is the Bike Shop news thread and a bike shop posted news. Now other people reply with other bike shop signatures and reply negatively towards another bike shop which is disrespectful. So i guess we should all reply with what has been deemed to be reasonable and honest comments. And watch this board get really ugly.


Or if people have personal issues with others it should handled it offline.

No hostility, just facts. Last year, you could buy via some shops that dealt Quiring, or directly with him. This year, you have to go through CtoF, or directly through Quiring. Not that much as changed, other then less shop options.

[Miami]

...AND he's a local Michigan business.

That's why some perceive it as silly that there'd be such exclusivity for such a brand in the largest market in the same state. To me, products don't sell well by being exclusive; they sell well by being considered worth the price they command (which Quirings are) and readily available. As an example note how Apple drastically expanded distribution when iPod desirability took off a few years ago. They wouldn't be nearly so ubiquitous if they were only sold at Apple stores and other non-big-box stores.

I'm sure even you can see the stretch of comparing a custom sized and built bicycle frame with an electric retail device. But, to me, that point is moot.

What is important to remember is that Scott Quiring cuts all the tubing to size. Scott Quiring jigs all the frames. Scott Quiring welds all the frames. Scott Quiring paints all the frames. 1 frame takes 5 weeks to complete.

I do not know Scott's business model or his intent on growing his business, but it's pretty clear that he's not trying to create a Trek-like enterprise. He makes enough frames to be happy and make his customers happy, and that can be supplied through just a handful of places; including Cycle To Fitness.

[c0nsumer]

I do not know Scott's business model or his intent on growing his business, but it's pretty clear that he's not trying to create a Trek-like enterprise. He makes enough frames to be happy and make his customers happy, and that can be supplied through just a handful of places; including Cycle To Fitness.

As most shops with teams require that their members ride bikes that the store carries, this presents a problem for much of what would be Quiring's target market. Since there is now an exclusive agreement with a Detroit area shop, anyone riding for another area shop will not meet team requirements with a Quiring since those shops now simply cannot carry the brand. I imagine this is (or will be) quite disappointing to many, since Quiring is perceived as one of the best frames around and strongly desired by many who race. Now those in the market for such a frame will have to look elsewhere; generally meaning outside of the state. I feel that this is disappointing for Michigan.

[scat silvurz]

Geez, do you guys have to verbally deficate in every corner of the BB? Like schizophrenic kittens?

[MEGAWATTS]

I just might venture into the C to F and find out if one of these Quiring frames can handle my output of power.
Might see ya soon,

MEGAWATTS.

[Washington Rider]

Geez, do you guys have to verbally deficate in every corner of the BB? Like schizophrenic kittens?

But then we would have to debate the type and quantity of the defication too...

[utabintarbo]

Geez, do you guys have to verbally deficate in every corner of the BB? Like schizophrenic kittens?

Wow. This, coming from you? Amazing.

Oh, and you spelled defecate wrong.

As most shops with teams require that their members ride bikes that the store carries, this presents a problem for much of what would be Quiring's target market. Since there is now an exclusive agreement with a Detroit area shop, anyone riding for another area shop will not meet team requirements with a Quiring since those shops now simply cannot carry the brand. I imagine this is (or will be) quite disappointing to many, since Quiring is perceived as one of the best frames around and strongly desired by many who race. Now those in the market for such a frame will have to look elsewhere; generally meaning outside of the state. I feel that this is disappointing for Michigan.

This is precisely on point. The fact is, last week I could get a Quiring through the shop I ride for. This week, I cannot. Boom - lost sale. Very disappointing.

[getoutside2play]

If you are one of the few riders sponsered by a shop that would prohibit you from riding a Quiring because of this deal, that totally sucks, for you. But, I doubt this is true for most of his consumer base. And, most shops don't require you to ride an exclusive brand. At the level we ride at, who could afford that? And if your shop does, you will just have to be satisfied riding some other sweet bike you get from your sweet sponsorship. Or, ride for a different team.
The bottom line is you have a local guy building sweet custom frames, trying to scrape out a living in this economy. Now you have a deal where a local shop is selling these locally hand-built frames. Pretty cool. I am sure the deal wasn't struck to sell fewer of them and hopefully there is a huge upside for the parties involved.

Good luck to 'em.

And *beep*, those Quirings are sweet. Scott spent a bunch of time chatting with me at the Iceman this year. He is very cool and very talented. I know what my next bike will be.

[jalopy jockey]

If you are one of the few riders sponsered by a shop that would prohibit you from riding a Quiring because of this deal, that totally sucks, for you. But, I doubt this is true for most of his consumer base. And, most shops don't require you to ride an exclusive brand. At the level we ride at, who could afford that? And if your shop does, you will just have to be satisfied riding some other sweet bike you get from your sweet sponsorship. Or, ride for a different team.
The bottom line is you have a local guy building sweet custom frames, trying to scrape out a living in this economy. Now you have a deal where a local shop is selling these locally hand-built frames. Pretty cool. I am sure the deal wasn't struck to sell fewer of them and hopefully there is a huge upside for the parties involved.

Good luck to 'em.

And , those Quirings are sweet. Scott spent a bunch of time chatting with me at the Iceman this year. He is very cool and very talented. I know what my next bike will be.

I would think that the shop racer/clubber is his customer base. People into bikes who know what they like. You don't have to be some elite or pro rider to have a shop affiliation. My shops criteria for a sweet ride could be met riding a 10 year old Trek 820 who can't afford that? just look in a dumpster.

Oh and by the time I drive to Livonia I might as well go all the way to Scott anyway. One hour of hellish traffic or two hours of cruisin' I'll take the later.

[Nelg]

No hostility, just facts. Last year, you could buy via some shops that dealt Quiring, or directly with him. This year, you have to go through CtoF, or directly through Quiring. Not that much as changed, other then less shop options.

Bingo! If you want a Quiring you can go see Daniel at C to F or roll to Charlotte and work with Scott. If you were serious about spending your tax return on a Quiring you'll get it from one of the sources. If you like to complain and get crabby in the off season about a bike you were not serious about buying, we'll you'll just post here about it.

[JL]

Wow .... I am sure there is some type of over advertising going on here. But, I am sure you can order a Quiring Frame through many other bike shops in Michigan and have them build it up for you. I know Great Lakes Cycle and Fitness (734)-668-6484 in Ann Arbor most certainly can and will order/build up your custom Quiring or non custom QBall.
Assumptions are way off and a little sad. There are better people to answer most questions in this thread, #1 would be Scott Quiring, 2nd in line would be Scott Quiring and then thats about it.

[utabintarbo]

Wow .... I am sure there is some type of over advertising going on here. But, I am sure you can order a Quiring Frame through many other bike shops in Michigan and have them build it up for you. I know Great Lakes Cycle and Fitness (734)-668-6484 in Ann Arbor most certainly can and will order/build up your custom Quiring or non custom QBall.
Assumptions are way off and a little sad. There are better people to answer most questions in this thread, #1 would be Scott Quiring, 2nd in line would be Scott Quiring and then thats about it.

I'm not so sure, in that I emailed Scott regarding this issue, and have yet to hear back from him. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, one has to take Daniel at his word - he is the Metro Area's ONLY Quiring dealer. Good for him, bad for me. I'll be looking elsewhere.